NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden’s story?

NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden’s story?

By Jon Rappoport

June 10, 2013

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First, I’m not doubting the documents Ed Snowden has brought forward. I’m not doubting the illegal reach of the NSA in spying on Americans and the world.

But as to how this recent revelation happened, and whether Ed Snowden’s history holds up…I have questions.

Could Snowden have been given extraordinary access to classified info as part of a larger scheme? Could he be a) an honest man and yet b) a guy who was set up to do what he’s doing now?

If b) is true, then Snowden fits the bill perfectly. He wants to do what he’s doing. He isn’t lying about that. He means what he says.

Okay. Let’s look at his history as reported by The Guardian.

In 2003, at age 19, without a high school diploma, Snowden enlists in the Army. He begins a training program to join the Special Forces. The sequence here is fuzzy. At what point after enlistment can a new soldier start this training program? Does he need to demonstrate some exceptional ability before Special Forces puts him in that program?

Snowden breaks both legs in a training exercise. He’s discharged from the Army. Is that automatic? How about healing and then resuming Army service? Just asking.

If he was accepted in the Special Forces training program because he had special computer skills, then why discharge him simply because he broke both legs?

Circa 2003 (?), Snowden gets a job as a security guard for an NSA facility at the University of Maryland. He specifically wanted to work for NSA? It was just a generic job opening he found out about?

Also in 2003 (?), Snowden shifts jobs. He’s now in the CIA, in IT. He has no high school diploma. He’s a young computer genius?

In 2007, Snowden is sent to Geneva. He’s only 23 years old. The CIA gives him diplomatic cover there. He’s put in charge of maintaining computer-network security. Major job. Obviously, he has access to a very wide range of classified documents. Sound a little odd? Again, just asking. He’s just a kid. Maybe he has his GED by now. Otherwise, he still doesn’t have a high school diploma.

Snowden says that during this period, in Geneva, one of the incidents that really sours him on the CIA is the “turning of a Swiss banker.” One night, CIA guys get a banker drunk, encourage him to drive home, the banker gets busted, the CIA guys help him out, then with that bond formed, they eventually get the banker to reveal deep banking secrets to the Agency.

Snowden is this naïve? He doesn’t know by now that the CIA does this sort of thing all the time? He’s shocked? He “didn’t sign up for this?”

In 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA. Why? Presumably because he’s disillusioned. It should noted here that Snowden claimed he could do very heavy damage to the entire US intelligence community in 2008, but decided to wait because he thought Obama, just coming into the presidency, might make good changes.

After two years with the CIA in Geneva, Snowden really had the capability to take down the whole US intelligence network, or a major chunk of it? He had that much access to classified data?

Anyway, in 2009, Snowden leaves the CIA and goes to work for a private defense contractor. Apparently, by this time, he knows all about the phony US war in Iraq, and yet he chooses to work for a sector that relentlessly promotes such wars. Go figure.

This defense contractor (unnamed) assigns him to work at an NSA facility in Japan. Surely, Snowden understands what the NSA is. He knows it’s a key part of the whole military-intelligence network, the network he opposes.

But he takes the job anyway. Perhaps he’s doing it so he can obtain further access to classified data, in advance of blowing a big whistle. Perhaps.

Snowden goes on to work for two private defense contractors, Dell and Booze Allen Hamilton. In this latter job, Snowden is again assigned to work at the NSA.

He’s an outsider, but he claims to have so much sensitive NSA data that he can take down the whole US intelligence network in a single day. Hmm.

These are red flags. They raise questions. Serious ones.


The Matrix Revealed


If The Guardian, which has such close access to Snowden, wants to explore these questions, they might come up with some interesting answers.

Again, I’m not doubting that the documents Snowden has brought forward are real. I have to assume they are. I certainly don’t doubt the reach and the power and the criminality of the NSA.

Although I’m sure someone will write me and say I’m defending the NSA. I’M NOT.

But if Snowden was maneuvered, in his career, without his knowing it, to arrive at just this point, then we have a whole new story. We have a story about unknown forces who wanted this exposure to occur.

Who would these forces be? I could make lots of guesses. But they would just be guesses.

Perhaps all the anomalies in the career of Ed Snowden can be explained with sensible answers. I realize that. But until they are, I put the questions forward. And leave them there.

Jon Rappoport

The author of two explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED and EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com

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101 comments on “NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden’s story?

  1. vicfedorov says:

    so what is the effect of this information? Spying Is widespread? That’s Not a conspiracy theory? There’s a giant office right behind here, collating this as data? welcome to the machine?

  2. Steve `Poots' Candidus says:

    “…This defense contractor (unnamed) assigns him to work at an NSA facility in Japan…”

    It’s interesting that he was assigned to work with the NSA in Japan.

    Lee Harvey Oswald was supposedly on the CIA payroll paid out of their office in Japan.

    Oswald was the ultimate patsy. He figured it out. It was too late.

    Is Ed Snowden their newest patsy? Will he figure it out? Will it be too late?

    As you say; `just asking’

    Poots

  3. It makes one wonder if this is all just a smoke screen to draw attention away from other things which may be going on…

  4. Cameron Day says:

    I love your ever-suspicious style, Jon! Seriously. We have to look at everything as deeply as possible to ferret out the hidden details.

    Your article makes me wonder: what if there is a group of powerful people who are so patient and meticulous that they “created” Snowden’s career and helped his “crisis of conscience” to culminate in this revelation?

  5. Anonymous says:

    What would these unknown forces gain by maneuvering Snowden to make this exposure?

  6. hybridrogue1 says:

    It is good to question everything.

    I would point out that this seems to be an era of revelations, and they do seem managed [to my intuition]. Managing revelation of secrets is certainly more profitable if the initiative is taken by those who wish to manage the fallout.

    Again, Design masquerades as Diagnosis. This is one of the core techniques of perception manipulation.

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  7. hybridrogue1 says:

    If they can get this all out in the open, and then “get beyond it”, then it is all old news and it’s over.

    I think that is the reason the “Mainstream” is hooked into this, it is a ploy – one set to ‘slow burn’…the “outrage” is being managed quite well, you may have noticed.

    Let’s face it, a Noble Peace Prize “president’ who is a warmonger has gone ‘unnoticed’ by these stupid Merkans for 4 and a half years. Amerika is braindead – the elite can count on it…and this will prove it.

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  8. Anonymous says:

    Why is his lack of a HS diploma so important to the author of this article, the military only cares about your education credentials if you want to be an officer,
    The military is can do, first. What can you do? second. And lastly, what do you know?

  9. Jack says:

    I agree, The ‘Guardian’ would never print something this sensitive without U.S. approval,which means also U.K. approval.

    Since the sixties anything deemed ‘delicate’ has always been vetted by a ‘D notice’ officer,usually someone of Rear Admiral rank.

    NOTHING like this ever gets printed here unless the government approves it!

  10. chrisiden says:

    this young man is pure genius … his IQ is the same as an average mans body weight!

  11. Greg says:

    Good questions Jon, from my viewpoint I see a couple of possible additional dynamics going on here:
    1. Limited hangout strawman – Another chew toy for the well-meaning clueless crowd.
    2. The expansion of the secrecy industrial complex since 9/11 like the blob is devouring everything in it’s path and it is “THE” new real politik wagging our collective Amurkin dog.
    3. Addressing his lack of formal credentials, the secrecy industrial complex has a very, very difficult time finding people who can actually pass muster and maintain a security clearance. So they’re required to recruit from the “know nothing, never done anything, been anywhere, and only view the world through a gunsight genetically modified ex-military propaganda drone,” world to fill their ranks.
    4. You could train a chimp to do those jobs. The jobs these NSA/CIA/(fill in your favorite acronym soup to nuts agency here) drones are required to do are so mind numbingly boring and routine that they don’t require any formal credentials, talent, individual initiative or horsepower of any kind.
    5. At some levels I think there is a great deal of programming of the individual to create the “manchurian candidate” character to fit an official tactical narrative, but sometimes I don’t think it’s necessary to reach that far when witnessing the truly low level at which this guy operated. He’s just another guy that takes orders well and get’s paid well for not asking any questions and optimizing his obedience to the bone grinding system. This speaks to just how routine, mundane, and widespread these types of dragnet surveillance activities really are.

    The profound mediocrity of this guys resume is what’s throwing you off Jon. That’s the trick, these diabolical programs are likely the most mundane part of the infrastructure of techno-fascism arrayed against the populations of the planet. It’s the psy-op to get us to believe that they can track/listen/document/etc. everything in every direction in real time in perpetuity. I don’t doubt that they can in some respects, but it’s the debauching of the legal system that allows for future fishing expeditions terrorizing the public that we’re not supposed to pay attention to. Fight on!

  12. Whiskey Six says:

    Doesn’t add up at all. The NSA’s hiring process is extremely rigorous…if there is a shadow of any doubt about anything, you don’t get in.

  13. Jason Whittington says:

    I believe you must be an E-6 in order to join Special Forces. Has this changed?

  14. Jason Whittington says:

    @Anonymous: ‘… the military only cares about your education credentials if you want to be an officer, The military is can do, first.”

    Wrong. You MUST be a HS graduate in order to enlist in the Air Force, Marine Corps or Navy. Depending on their need, the Army changes their requirements.

  15. Anonymous says:

    The second he said he went from security to personnel of NSA i was like, really?? Then he goes on saying i had all this money and a perfect life and income in Hawaii, going on to say, “..and imagine what is takes to leave a life like that..” It really raised a flag for me, in his tone & face, it looked like a footnote in his speech. As if he was deliberately trying to make the point that he has everything to lose by doing this. He also didn’t seem to have much sentiment towards the emotional aspect of leaving a relationship behind forever either. It feels like this is one of those moments brought on by false-flag conspiracy (believe government is taking care of it, or believe in the conspiracy, and be afraid they can do anything). Even if it is clearly out of order or dead truth, it just says, ‘Believe we are capable of it, and there is no escape from our power.’ Oh… and he made sure to drop some words like, ..one of the worlds’ most powerful infrastructures..’ referring to our systems of data collecting. I mean his fear, whether is true or not, is one i share too, honestly. The difference is, i don’t have the fear that our government is SO organized that i won’t be able to live the life i want inside this country. we all have the choice to display as much of ourselves as we chose on the web, and in other mediums of socializing (not without some social repercussions, clearly). If you have a fear in similarity to this man’s fear, get off the grid as much as you can, and stop complaining where you are being watched/listened to.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Interesting stuff. Jon, go back and listen to the interview. Note the use of the word “you” then come back and rewrite your article. The use of the word “you” when talking about yourself is a mindfuck, it is designed to put the viewer – say of sporting events, in the event itself. Note how athletes will say, “you work all year for this and then you win….” it was PR move to make the viewer feel like THEY won, not the athlete.

    The whistleblower in this case wants US to be the one’s who have done this, his words are too well scripted for a guy who is most likely going to be Bradley Manninged. His interview was a PR person’s wet dream, which makes the process curious to say the least.

    In the end there is nothing new here, books have been written about this stuff for ages, for god’s sake they are building not one, but TWO huge multibillon dollar complexes to store this stuff – hardly a secret, as they are hiring right now! How they do it, who cares, they do it? This was designed to get 1 month of outrage, followed by full and complete acceptance by everyone – and this will happen just as it was planned.

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  18. Cowering_0 says:

    There was one brief TV news report that mentioned that he had other family members involved in the intelligence community. (Sorry… I cannot give a citation.)
    Possibly there is a sort of clique-ish/family centered culture to the intelligence community that allowed him into a position of trust, even if he lacked the academic qualifications?
    He was one of them. They knew his family. They trusted him.

  19. santa fe bob says:

    Good job jon,looks like alot of people have the same concerns(false flag).When you see mainsteam media all over this you can bet it’s been planned and approved for publc consumption.I agree with the gentleman above,get the story out and control it and condition the masses for whatever is coming next

  20. Anonymous says:

    John O’Neil comes to mind, a supposed hero, that was actually intimately involved in the 9/11 event.

  21. Kathy says:

    Oh yes, reminds me of the gradeschool lesson where we were asked what is wrong with this picture? Now that we are aware that those who have different views from the desired status quo are targetted by the IRS, FBI, CIA, OSHA, EPA, DOJ, DHS, et all, we will be comforted that all Americans are under attack!

  22. Anonymous says:

    just wondering if this isn’t red herring. Chinese have compromised our security as well as our lap dog. the shtf and to provide cover story and a need for even more domestic crackdown one of our own has gone rouge these intel guys just keep working it

  23. Kim Wright says:

    I think this was purposely leaked…perhaps to give the govt an opportunity to say “yes we do spy” but “It’s in your own best interest.” For the sake of preventing terrorism. They are hoping to get the public to buy into this theory so that some conspiracy theorist doesn’t expose them first. This way they have all the control.

  24. OzzieThinker says:

    There are very few journalists “on the button”. You are one, Jon. Honouring the resounding disinformation success – wikileaks, it seems the CIA/NSA are now in “nothing can stop us” mode. We live in an age of so much information, but so little to trust that even the respectfully intelligent are becoming confused.

    Thank you for clarity on precisely how dangerous things are becoming….

    OT

  25. Thinker says:

    This crossed my mind, so many convenient pieces. It is possible it was/is an unwitting setup. Or witting, who knows. We do know there are big things always in the background at work. Is this the govt coming forward to announce the facts, or is it to divert from things like the TPP trade agmt, or amnesty, both of which will further destroy the US.
    In my estimation it’s all of the above.Thank you for lining out the questions in this format Jon.

  26. SovereignMary says:

    Well, there’s nothing like going all out to kill the messenger – is there?

  27. Ed says:

    The fake whistle blower for the fake president and the know nothing see nothing public.

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  29. Bill Carson says:

    I was thinking the same thing. Something fishy about all of this. Maybe they are floating a trial balloon to see what people would do or think. Maybe the whole thing is a setup and he is a fake leaker. Why go to Hong Kong ? Why go to China of all places? Then now he says he wants to go to Iceland. Maybe they are leaking a little to cover up a lot or maybe its a distraction for some other reason. something about this whole deal sounded weird to me from the start. As soon as alex jones gets back from england he can get on the case.

  30. Judith says:

    Sometimes “leaks” are a way of managing how information emerges and how it’s perceived. And it’s a way of getting the American people to consent to something ugly. We’ve just been through a series of disasters. Will we really rise up and oppose all this wiretapping and data mining? Compared to all the tornadoes, bombings, fires, and storms, this all seems so mild, so remote. But after this “leak” no one can claim ignorance. From this point on we are complicit.

  31. Les says:

    He may have earned a high school equivalency while attending Anne Arundel Community College in 1999-2001 before he enlisted. He took computer courses again after being dropped from military training.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18882615-what-we-know-about-nsa-leaker-edward-snowden?lite

    I think there was such a rapid rush by the government to staff up for national security (Iraq, War on Terror, WMDs, etc.) that they accepted a lot of people that they wouldn’t take in today. He got in at about the right time in 2003-2004; i.e., when the defense budget nearly doubled in three years.

  32. Mickey Roberts says:

    Just a comment on part of the story. If you break anything while training in the military, you are discharged. They don’t heal you and let you continue, they send you home. Know a kid that broke his ankle in basic, he was gone the next day.

  33. Chris Jacob says:

    Common…This is just another drama of lame stream media + CIA and NSA …The guy is still at Langley playing his part.

    Do you really really —REALLY believe the whole lame stream media will EVER print a story without confirming it first with their masters in NSA and CIA?

    When was the last time lame stream media in America wrote a truth that served Human race…ummmm…let me think………NEVER

    You got to be kidding yourself with all this to believe that its real but not a drama to introduce more laws in America to further curb your freedom.

    Look at the narration and the over drive lame stream media has got into this…which is a big red flag…

    To put further credibility to what I’m saying….

    I guarantee, the Guy will never be caught and I double guarantee that for the next few months..they will blow up this story to MAX EFFECT…He will conveniently be always on the run, too close but never tooo close to be caught

    BUT HE WILL CONTINUE TO USE INTERNET AND TELL HIS SIDE OF THE STORY

    This is it…Look at the headline

    Assange in touch with ‘hero’ whistleblower Snowden

    http://www.nst.com.my/latest/assange…owden-1.298008

    Yeah right…How freaking convenient…..

    Those who are in this for a long time will see through this BS now that Assenge has somehow conveniently able to make contact with the guy….We in Conspiracy know what Coincidences really mean…

    Do they really really think we are that STUPID to believe this whole DRAMA….

  34. Jim Blaze says:

    hegelian Dialect at play;
    Problem: too much international surveillance
    Reaction: OMG we’re being snooped by our own governments
    Solution: Wait and see, NWO.in the wings.

  35. Brynn says:

    Once a CIA asset, always a CIA asset.

  36. Gabriel says:

    Thanks for the added perspective rappoport

  37. Nocturnal says:

    Hmm..

  38. Nocturnal says:

    Joining the military with no diploma is def one ive never heard of. You have to at least have a GED. As far a special forces he could have had it in his contract when he first joined. But he would have had to scored extremely high on his ASVAB as well as exhibited other traits. Still….his lack of a deploma would have def prohibited his entry period. Broken legs….well depending on how bad it was the military can choose not to spend too much money on getting you back up to par. After rehabilitation they could go straight into a medical chapter. Then again….if he was just riding a desk he could have easily stayed. In my opinion something isnt right. As far as the rest of this story I can only speculate. I cant seem to get passed his odd military service

  39. Dod says:

    I agree with Chris Jacob. None of this is real. If it were it would not be published in the Guardian. As I read the story, I kept shaking my head. From Security guard to Top CIA security agent in a blink of an eye. Have you ever heard of a a security guard, who did’nt do well in high school moving up the ranks? No disrespect to security guards but they are security guards for a reason.

    This reminds me of the Jewish “film makers” ( mossad” )on 911 who filmed the planes on 911. They claimed they were doing a documentary on the NYC fire fighters and were close friends with one of the fire fighters. How many Jewish film makers do you know who socialize with fire fighters? The fact that these so called “film makers” never made a film before or after 911 does not seem to interest anyone.

    Come on! Get real. This is all for our consumption.

  40. Anonymous says:

    soldiers injured in training are routinely sent home, especially with serious injuries and anyone can opt for special forces generally right after basic training if they want so no issues there

  41. pay dirt says:

    If Snowden is part of a ruse or he was set up to do this, the message is that EVERYONE is being spied on. When it become that broad, the REAL targeted people get lost in the mix. The REAL targeted people, can be found in the MIAC report that was released a few years ago. The ‘intelligence’ for that report, stank to high heaven of the Southern Poverty Law Center who works hand in glove with the feds. This may be the opposite of a limited hangout.

    Read THIS: http://www.activistpost.com/2013/06/main-core-list-of-millions-of-americans.html

  42. Avi says:

    Hi Jon,

    I GOT THE ANSWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    1.We, people, if we want to raise against tyranny need a majority to stand up and a global awakening.

    2.They, the tyrants, if they want a final oppression need AS WE DO people to stand up in order to raise the level of oppression to the point they can justify their move.

    3. The main problem of general apathy of the ‘sheeple’ is the same in both cases. They cannot crush a civil unrest when there is none !

  43. ask? says:

    @John, if this man is alive by the end of the week, he is a plant.
    No one with this much/supposed information just walks around.
    There is an old saying, once a spook always a spook, unless
    your time is up..

  44. Leena Lapena says:

    You can, if you test well, get a contract to go to special forces training as a condition of your enlistment. Break both legs badly enough and they can and will medically board you out. DIA, NSA, CIA will hire whomever it needs to do whatever they need. I do not think rigorous is the correct word for opportunists. As for his surprise at setting the banker up, he was young, ideal and loved his country and naive. As for taking jobs he was doing what he was trained to do in an area he was trained for and slowly just could not ignore his inner conscience.
    Was he himself set up, maybe. Were they already doing this when they formed Operation Echelon and Carnivore in the early 2000s? Yes. Does the military, CIA, or DIA ever underestimate people? Ask Susan Lindauer, Bradley Manning, and Ray McGovern.

  45. Thomas Bean says:

    Looks like a psy OP…very unlikely that a well paid overrated techie is gonna sign up for the Brad Manning treatment….especially with spook patsy written all over his history. Running to China for freedom? They may want to prepare the sheeple to accept murder of US whistle blowers like the blogger from South Dakota. Every article on this must be spun 180 degrees by the reader to see what Big Brother is up to. Jon Rappaport is wise to question the convenience of this story for those brainwashing Sheeple into thinking what? (Just watch Fox News to learn the script being offered up).

  46. crazydays4 says:

    My gut instinct is that this is part of the plan to get Americans MAD. They WANT us to start a revolution. The IRS targeting conservatives may have been a planned leak, as well as this one, the (NSA knowing everything we do). They WANT Americans (esp “patriots”) to get ENRAGED and FED UP. So fed up that they decide to do something about it. They’re trying to stir up our anger, b/c the only way they have an excuse to declare martial law & bring in foreign troops is if Americans start fighting back. They want soooo bad for patriot-types to start a revolution, so that they can finally say “See we told you! They’re dangerous terrorists! Trying to overthrow the govt!” They need & WANT an excuse, to come at Americans with the full force that they have been amassing over the last few years. They can’t fill up their FEMA camps under the guise of “restoring order” if we all just sit around and act apathetic. I guess the leak of “IRS targeting conservatives” didn’t create the uproar they were hoping for. So Plan B. Release the fact that Big Brother knows every detail about us. That should create major RESENTMENT. We cannot give them what they want. Of course we need to defend our families, but we need to be smart & not fall into their trap. THEY WANT US TO GIVE THEM AN EXCUSE TO COME DOWN WITH THE IRON FIST THEY ALREADY HAVE PLANNED.

  47. kensteen says:

    Good points John.

    Not meaning to sound “elitist” or such, but the idea that this guy could get a high up job in the NSA in IT without a high school diploma, much less a college degree in the field , is just absurd.

    Even assuming (or especially if) his official biography is true.

    Like all bureaucracies, they hire using internal HR departments. Those jobs are all laid out with official job descriptions and minimum requirements. HR departments wont even give you the time of day if you don’t have the minimum posted requirements.

    That’s how these systems work. HR people wont jeopardize their job by hiring outside the requirements. These hiring protocols are put in place by committees in order to standardize hiring practices, meet hiring demands (like affirmative action), and meet the demands of government employee unions.

    Just being a smart dude isn’t enough.

    And like you said, his official “legend” (as the intel types call it) is fuzzy as it is. It seems to me that they are playing on the public image of computer geeks here, rather than the reality.

    The reality is, you don’t just get hired off the street to work IT for these government agencies at that level. It may happen in the movies, but not in real life.

    -Ken

  48. Dan says:

    Maybe a matter of gradual exposure for us to accept more willingly the next steps of erosion. A Psy-Ops as the movies do, in order to adapt our minds to a new reality in the make.

  49. Michael says:

    Wow! Jon makes a suggestion that somehow this guy has been sent to release this information and instead of feeling outrage that your government is lawlessly spying on you, you look for holes in his life story. I love the comments that this is old news. Obviously if it is old news to you and all you can do is critique the messenger’s story, you have no understanding of the Bill of Rights and how the lawless government has turned your country into a prison. Wake up! Recognize your enemy and prepare to defend yourself. Once we surrender another line of defense such as our privacy and safety in our thoughts and homes what comes next? Please reject the notion that government spying on us is old news and just fine because it isn’t ok.

  50. Ray says:

    I can answer few of questions or probably all…

    first, he was not programmar. like you use smart phones “app” without knowing what is inside. so anybody can do it.

    second, defenses forces have special heart for “one of us”. that should explain trust in him.

    third why exposé now? yes, I can see it is planned as everything else. probably they let about 100 such people see the details in the hope one of them will come out or may be he is the only one assigned… but sure thing is this leak was planned.

    why? people tend to boast of their achievements and same goes for power elites. world already knew they are upto something but there was no confirmation. this leak confirms it.

    another example is Alex jones shill… in recent interview with bbc he exposed himself (not evident to uninitiated) as insider of bilderberger.!

    let them boast. all I know is that these poser elites will never know the true love.

  51. This guys looks like he has been setup to divulge the “perfect” story about how our NSA/CIA is listening and processing ALL of the world’s info traffic? Really? My IT background calls BS on that. We would certainly like our enemies to believe that!

    This guy has done a mindfu?k on our enemies. “There is nowhere or no communication you can make that WE are not listening to!? ooooohhhhh. Carrier pigeons, smoke signals, shortwave, hand written notes, microfiche, we got it covered! The pigeons have been working for us for years.

    Some simple calculations of the amount of data generated in a day in our world would quickly reveal that only GOD has that power and I would bet that there is no one in the NSA or CIA with those qualifications.

    Thank you Snowden for your service to the intelligence community. What gave you away was the fact that you were giving up a post in Hawaii with a big salary, that would never happen.
    Let’s keep the enemy guessing and sleepless.

    p.s. maybe THIS communication is from the MAN and it is placing doubt as to the abilites of our agencies. That’s what makes this game so much fun.

  52. Joh Bull says:

    I don’t know where you got your intell Jon but he couldn’t have enlisted (even in the Army) in 2003 without either a diploma or a GED. The Army dropped their standards a couple of years later. As for the Special Forces that is bunk, with the information you have here he did not meet the qualifications e,g, “male age 20-30 and high school diploma”.

  53. kat says:

    i have started to think that this guy is a false flag after i saw photos of his exhibitionist pole dancer “girlfriend” today.

    i mean, come on, he said he fears for the lives of her and his family, and the next thing we get is not only her full name, but a blog full of pictures that seem to be screaming “oh, look just how much he has sacrificed”?!

    any reasonable being in her situation would keep a very very low profile these days (and delete all online data)

    this, in addition to his blatant lack of formal credentials (but at the same time, as he said, potential access to even the president’s emails?!), makes me think the whole thing was staged.

    but by whom and why?

  54. Anonymous says:

    Nice piece and thanks for not swallowing his “story” without some skepticism. I have been astonished by “everyone” just believing his story 100% and are not asking any questions about this nut job. i am waiting for the press to do some extensive background work on him, on a lot of the inconsistencies you brought up. Now he has checked out of his Hong Kong hotel, and the immediate conclusion is that the US Government “got” him? Well, let’s say he has now gone underground. The armchair genius will say its because he got offed, so no matter what happens here, it’s the government’s fault. Amazing.

  55. Jeanne says:

    It could be that Snowden is a dual agent, Spies look for spies so they can get sensitive information and pay good money for it. Since it seems we will eventually go to war with Russia or China or both, and the fact that they we are accusing China of cyber attacks, he could very well be working to under mind our NSA to the world, and the fact that all nations and their leaders could very well be nervous that we collecting data on them as well. It change the balance of Power USA has over all nations at the moment.

  56. bluebunny says:

    I think the simplest question that needs an answer is this:

    Wouldn’t the all-knowing NSA have predicted/witnessed Snowden doing this? And let it happen?

    Isn’t that the point of the NSA surveillance techniques? It would have known he was leaking documents, and it would know exactly were he is in Japan.

  57. Jonathan says:

    Could it be this is just an attempt to add more fear? They are watching your every move so don’t think you can get away with anything? After all, fear is the greatest controller of the masses. I doubt the PTB can watch every communication as stated. Don’t scare yourselves into submission people.

  58. […] I believe we would be remiss if we didn’t consider the whole damn thing a False Flag with the question in mind – what’s in it for the regime?  Make sure and read the comment section!!!  From Jon Rappoport’s Blog – NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden’s story?  […]

  59. […] this possibility reveals I’m not the only one scrinching up his nose at the smell, please see http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/nsa-leaker-are-there-serious-cracks-in-ed-snowdens-stor…  and  http://www.thedailybell.com/29215/Edward-Snowden-Limited-Hangout-or-a-Globalist-Step-Back […]

  60. bob klinck says:

    It certainly seems to be a common phenomenon for a scandal that gets substantial media attention to act as a mask for doings that should constitute an even bigger scandal. If that applies in this case, then some truly monumental wrongdoing must be occurring.

    Or perhaps some element of Snowden’s story will be shown to be in error, which will have a spill-over effect in generating doubt about the credibility of the surveillance revelations as a whole. As you say, he could be innocently subject to control in such a situation.

    Certainly his being ‘taken down’ by the SS will provide another object lesson for people on the inside who are tempted to follow their consciences rather than orders from above in a hierarchy. Once this inclination is eradicated, societal control becomes a snap.

  61. dogg says:

    Great insights on this that nobody else is thinking of. When these things come out in the controlled mass media, it’s always because the bad guys want it to for some nefarious reason.

  62. JerseyCynic says:

    I hear he’s off “To Russia With Love”

    Jon the moment this story broke I felt is was the big kahuna of distractions. I now await the MOTHER of all false flags — but that’s just me, I guess.

  63. Anonymous says:

    You all should read a book called “Philip Dru; Administrator”… Reading that book by Colonel House will give you the proper insights to see the manipulations taking place with Snowden and any others who are manipulated into a position to act on their core values, its always just the timing that has to be just right… aka phasing… at the right time in the sequence of events the right introduced aspects can shift the nuance of the objective reality drama in a different direction… No doubt the money power via its “old boy” club created the world as it is now, thru their selection of those they put in the positions of power and wealth that would be corrupted by such, intentionally. How long will it go on? Seems Snowden might be the beginning of a shift, but then so was Assange when he came out a few years back and NOTHING of any real consequence has really followed. (real consequence being a change in the direction we’re heading, which instead of changing directions, only appears to be accelerating us faster towards the by now self evident ends.)

  64. mark b says:

    I did a background check. This Gov’t thing should not have guns.

  65. ask? says:

    Supposedly Mr. leak’er tells everyone about a spying program on
    data that is looked at for issues to deal with national security. Yet
    as the news reports that China is hacking America daily, this man
    goes to a airport, buys a ticket(which in doing so his name would
    have been flagged for security reasons of getting on an international flight to China) and goes without anything happening..

  66. Avi says:

    Yes, it’s all the more evident it is a false flag since he is supported full gear by The Guardian as I have noted a present campaign of English newspaper to delegitimize America (& German too btw). We’re not far from Britain supporting Assad !! The NWO ‘homeland’ is disengaging from its armed hand, the US (& Israel). Endgame soon ?? My only question is where does Putin stands ?

    (http://mfm-news3.blogspot.co.il/p/the-holy-german-empire.html)

  67. Bob Milhoan says:

    Jon:
    I can speak only to the comments regarding Special Forces. The Army does have a contract called 18Xray. My son did it the same way. There are some special requirements, but he went to Basic at Ft. Benning; two hours after graduation he checked in for Airborne training, (also at Benning); and a few hours after graduating from that, he was on a bus to Ft. Bragg for the Special Forces Assesment and Selection course. It is tough, but it is do-able.

  68. Waverider1 says:

    EXCELLENT observations, Jon! And, as someone earlier mentioned, once one is in The Company, one can never, ever truly leave (at least not with a body to walk around in!).
    This may just be the ‘positive military’ or so-called ‘white hats’ making a move to overthrow, from the inside, the remaining cabal operatives, clean house. Lots of possibilities, ALL of them AWESOME.

  69. Tracy Sunn-Stott says:

    Excellent article and great comments.
    Indeed, Snowden’s story smacks of snow-job. You’d think after Manning’s disclosures, there’d be even tighter controls.
    Yet, out pops a new act taking center stage in the consciousness-conditioning circus called mainstream news.
    Ah, life under the Big Top…

  70. […] Latest NSA Leaker Snowden: Are There Serious Cracks In Ed Snowden’s Story? http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/nsa-leaker-are-there-serious-cracks-in-ed-snowdens-stor… Could Snowden have been given extraordinary access to classified info as part of a larger scheme? […]

  71. humanati says:

    It’s good to ask questions Jon, & I trust your integrity. I also want to support a brave young man who has seemingly acted with integrity. Until I have information that supports another motive, I will support a man of conscience rising up against the system & celebrating the power of 1 man who acts in their conscience. It’s good to ask questions. It’s good to have faith in the power of humanity & the courage of ordinary individuals.

    I think one of COINTELPRO’s main objectives is to make us doubt this beautiful quality…

  72. rabbitnexus says:

    A good start for me to get into this thing. I saw it arise a few days ago, and without doing any reading yet, I’m only aware of the basics at this point. Not being spoon fed my news anymore, I tend to watch some stories peripherally for a few days sometimes or even longer before paying them much attention. By doing the same with Boston I found getting a handle on things was easier and faster. It takes a few days for the stories to gel as a rule and then the analyses from folks like you Jon is fast and invaluable so here we go. I wondered though myself as soon as it was being widely reported from the get go. The MSM can only be relied upon anymore to be loudspeakers for the “official” story, which in the case of whistleblowers usually means carefully selected ones intended to create a limited hangout at most or even a psyop in themselves.

    I assume when you wonder if the Guardian, “wants to explore these questions, they might come up with some interesting answers.” that you’re being ironic. That’s implying they might do journalism. Good one Jon.

    Cheers

  73. rabbitnexus says:

    I think the overall plan with the many medium sized outrages like shootings and bombings and leaks of snooping etc which most have covertly at least admitted for years are already in place is as simple as it gets, all the various side plots notwithstanding. It is simply to keep turning up the heat. Don’t forget how frogs are cooked.

  74. bleak says:

    Is there a whistleblowers’ whistleblower? I mean, who is telling the truth? Julian Assange is championing Snowden. So if Snowden is a fake, does that make Assange one too? Or is Assange just not as smart as someone who is seeing fakery in Snowdens’ story?

    I’m thinking that Snowden may be the real deal. If someone is exhibiting the kind of “stuff” the NSA wants, why wouldn’t they put him on a “fast-track” to the upper levels? They can break any “rules” they want, obviously.

  75. Betty Jones says:

    This interview with Glenn Greenwald on Democracy Now explains why they decided to go public with Snowden’s information now.

    http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/06/on-slippery-slope-to-totalitarian-state.html

    And if Snowden is a double-triple agent/fake-leaker as Jon suspects, was William Binney, who resigned from NSA in 2001 expressing fears of the same type of misdeeds revealed by Snowden also a government plant? Come on. Anybody willing to put his/her life at risk for core principles and integrity is a hero in my book. See Ann Barnhardt and Catherine Austin Fitts, among others.

  76. ceruleanlake says:

    Well, just do a Google image search for “Edward Snowden’s girlfriend”. You will see her almost naked in many provacative poses as a model and dancer. She is even pictured pole dancing for public consumption! The media is starting to push “This is the woman Snowden left behind to give us the truth.” Then we all are treated to Hollywood sexed up images of her. This is a dead giveaway. Just another production! No doubt now… this is definitely a CIA operation.

  77. Deanna Clark says:

    It’s a distraction from Obama going to China…as cia as Alex Jones.

    The real OZ is collapsing behind the curtain and we are being given “hush puppies” to divert us from what’s cooking.

  78. […] have been mulling over certain questions in my mind and this writer has given voice to those questions. There is a lot that is curious about Mr. Snowden and, like the author, I can’t say one way […]

  79. Mike says:

    Jon

    To set my terms/context –
    This old news. Several whistle blowers’ have come forward over the past five plus years. The media and traitorous politicians failed acknowledge this info. It was however, never discussed in the media.

    My take is that this is beta run by the pirates-plunderer’s to

    1 – see how the public reacts.

    2 – plant the seed in the publics mind that the world we live in, is full of really, really evil people intent on killing us. And that such actions necessary – for the better good – and necessary – as American’s move forward in an ever increasingly dangerous world.

    3 – This operation is being rolled by design. I suspect that Snowden is CIA and playing a roll.

    4 – And yes – it will ultimately be successful.

    5 – The collective will come to the conclusion – reinforced by the media – that this technology is necessary but that the people still have a voice in the matter through their elected officials.

    We are all in this together!

    btw – I was impressed with one of your reader’s comments regarding Col. House. Nice!

    Lastly, what you have done over the years inspires me.

    tx

  80. Limited hangout, quite likely. Like Echelon & the SR-71B Blackbird, obsolete when they got widely known. Nonetheless…

  81. The “Matrix” analogy works well for the “real” world in which we live. If the masses “took the red pill” and saw what was really happening in the world they would overwhelm the Corporate/Military alliance and alter the course that the human race has been driven along so effectively since the early years of the 20th Century.- In the 1930’s the fledgling Corporations ensured their own success by the simple expedient of outlawing hemp — the REAL competition against all of their products — this paved the way for the massive redistribution of wealth that would lead to the Corporate/military control of even the American and British governments — the Flagships of democracy . A surge of growth began with President Nixon and continues to this day.— The Corporate/Military “The Machines” are on the brink of another major rise in their power and objectives. The ONLY thing that will stop this happening is a mass awakening of humanity. I have been saying for a long time that “We Humans” are in a race against the Corporate/Military alliance and we are fast approaching the junction where the whole future of the human race will be decided. The interim mess of the world that the Corporate/Military has created has been so obvious that many people are waking up to what has been going on and many can see the ugly reality to which it leads. — The rising growth in awareness amongst the peoples of all Nations is causing the Machines to push the agenda along —- The spread of awareness is largely via electronic media and communications networks that the Machines do not ,as yet, have full control .. Edward Snowdens “shocking revelations” are of course “old news” to many and so the Machines loose little by releasing them via Patsy Snowden — but by inducing fear within the people that the Governments see and know everything the Machines hope to stem the tide of the only thing that can stop them achieving their goals TRUTH —- It is indeed a numbers game in that if only a fraction of the people are aware then those still “asleep” will permit and even encourage the outrages that will shortly follow….. those outrages will probably be big enough to awaken many more people — but by then it will be too late — the new Dark Age will be upon humanity. Only mass awareness can prevent this bleak course of events —- Snowden’s “revelations” , for me are further proof off how close this race between the Human’s and the Machines is … A massive awkening on a world scale would force a restructuring of the sinister politics created by the Corporate/Military Machine — possibly even relatively peacefully –So DO NOT be frightened by the “Snowden effect” into not seeking and spreading TRUTH – TRUTHS ARE THE PEOPLES BULLETS THE INTERNET IS OUR BIGGEST CANNON — KEEP FIRING ! — FOR YOUR GRANDCHILDREN’S SAKE !!

  82. nota says:

    One thing that keeps bugging me about this Snowden business: How are Snowden’s revelations “news”? Remember UIDs starting with Intel Pentiums IIIs? Windows having NSA backdoor since at least 1999? How about Poindexter’s Total Information Awareness thingy from 2002? Echelon, etc.? Where do you think Google rose out from? Years ago I remember talk of Verizon etc giving access to these folks and have assumed all calls/communication were monitored….all doubts removed after 2003’s Patriot Act….Was watching this docu just today (Shadow Government):
    http://vimeo.com/19390456
    and I know it came out much before Snowden’s “revelations” so much of what he has to “out” was practically well known…..

    Personally I have no doubt this is all to take our attention away from other MUCH MORE important things…..

  83. Nathanael Greene says:

    Does it really matter, at this point, if his credentials were legitimate or not? The fact remains that the government overstepped it’s authority. And in doing so, it has come to light that laws, in the form of constitutional amendments were broken. Perhaps he did lie about his education. The fact that the government continues to flood the news media with inconsequential facts regarding Snowden highlights their attempt to put up a smokescreen around NSA activities against the American public. Spying is essential in the world of international conflict. But when that necessity is expanded by our government to the point where the constitutional rights of potentially all Americans are violated, then Snowden has done what all of us should do. The Federalist Papers, written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay promoting ratification of the constitution are clear and unequivocal :

    “If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify.”

    Perhaps Snowden went about this the wrong way…. perhaps not. A whistle blower walks a fine line. It is still not to late for the people of this country to take measures to redress this injury done to the constitution as Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay have put before us

  84. Anonymous says:

    I am so glad you have written this article as I was thinking I was the only one who wasn’t completely stupid like the rest of the world.
    In fact the purpose of the whole Snowden’s operation is to 1) increase fear and terror among people and to potential whistleblowers. 2) To strengthen the independence of Hong Kong as the last fronteer of the West in China. A REAL WHISTLEBLOWER WOULD NEVER HAD SUCH A HUGE IMPACT ON MEDIA. he would had probably been killed at the airport before doing the check in.

  85. M. says:

    It has been said; a truth revealed is often much simpler than it first appears.

    The simple truth behind Edward Snowdon is; there is no Edward Snowdon, there never was. There is only this somewhat dazed looking man, called Julian Assange, the sole hacker in all of this. If any information was leaked it was Assange who leaked it. (After hacking it)
    Julian Assange, the mole in the middle of London, hacking away in his embassy where he is unseen. Untouchable by law.

    From where he is he can do everything he wants online. EVERYTHING. I mean, it’s not like authorities are going to cut of the power, are they? It’s and embassy! In other words; a hackers heaven. Assange doesn’t want to to leave. He is perfectly happy where he is, hacking away, with the blessing of the Ecuadorian government. He’s the worm in Englands backyard. Or perhaps a double agent working for whoever pays him the most?

    This man knows more about hacking than God about the universe. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Honestly, what do we REALLY think he is doing up there in his little room in the Ecuadorian embassy? Playing cards? Reading Playboy? This man has turned himself into the Jesus Christ of hacking and enjoying every minute of his new found fame, presenting himself as the “adult who will punish the flaws of disobedient governments”. Governments that know exactly what he’s doing.

    Edward Snowdon will never leave his Moscow airport, wearing sunglasses and facing flash-photography, because he can’t. I bet he never arrived in the first place. I think he only exists in cyberspace.
    Think about it; to book a flight from Hongkong To Moscow on-line is easy enough. And he fact that Snowdon never physically boarded is irrelevant. As we witnessed, world wide media hype quickly began to lead a life of its own. “Snowdon must have boarded because an airline computer said so”. So it must be true!

    And so it goes on and on…Welcome to the word of cyberspace.

    That’s it and that’s all. The truth is out there but it’s not what we expect.Isn’t it often?

    We all love a good mystery and, no doubt, the movie with Matt Damon will be in theaters next year. Filmed in Hawaii, Hongkong, Moscow and Havanna.
    But for now, don’t believe the Assange hype. It’s all a smokescreen to hide his real ID, for he is nothing more than another genius hacker.
    Wether his actions are right or wrong, that’s what he is and that’s what he’s doing. It’s nothing more than a one man operation.

    And if that sounds to simplistic to be true, believe it because it very well might be so…

  86. Rover says:

    “Snowden is this naïve?” but not too naive to run to China and apparently also Russia. in his Guardian Q&A session, he evades the question about why he chose Hong Kong, as well as another key question by the same person. strange behavior for someone working for an intelligence service. holes in story + evasiveness = dingalingalingaling

  87. Marc says:

    It has been said; a truth revealed is often much simpler than it first appears.

    The simple truth behind Edward Snowdon is; there is no Edward Snowdon, there never was. There is only this somewhat dazed looking man, called Julian Assange, the sole hacker in all of this. If any information was leaked it was Assange who leaked it. (After hacking it)
    Julian Assange, the mole in the middle of London, hacking away in his embassy where he is unseen. Untouchable by law.

    From where he is he can do everything he wants online. EVERYTHING. I mean, it’s not like authorities are going to cut of the power, are they? It’s and embassy! In other words; a hackers heaven. Assange doesn’t want to to leave. He is perfectly happy where he is, hacking away, with the blessing of the Ecuadorian government. He’s the worm in Englands backyard. Or perhaps a double agent working for whoever pays him the most?

    This man knows more about hacking than God about the universe. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Honestly, what do we REALLY think he is doing up there in his little room in the Ecuadorian embassy? Playing cards? Reading Playboy? This man has turned himself into the Jesus Christ of hacking and enjoying every minute of his new found fame, presenting himself as the “adult who will punish the flaws of disobedient governments”. Governments that know exactly what he’s doing.

    Edward Snowdon will never leave his Moscow airport, wearing sunglasses and facing flash-photography, because he can’t. I bet he never arrived in the first place. I think he only exists in cyberspace.
    Think about it; to book a flight from Hongkong To Moscow on-line is easy enough. And he fact that Snowdon never physically boarded is irrelevant. As we witnessed, world wide media hype quickly began to lead a life of its own. “Snowdon must have boarded because an airline computer said so”. So it must be true!

    And so it goes on and on…Welcome to the word of cyberspace.

    That’s it and that’s all. The truth is out there but it’s not what we expect.Isn’t it often?

    We all love a good mystery and, no doubt, the movie with Matt Damon will be in theaters next year. Filmed in Hawaii, Hongkong, Moscow and Havanna.
    But for now, don’t believe the Assange hype. It’s all a smokescreen to hide his real ID, for he is nothing more than another genius hacker.
    Wether his actions are right or wrong, that’s what he is and that’s what he’s doing. It’s nothing more than a one man operation.

    And if that sounds to simplistic to be true, believe it because it very well might be so…

  88. Mr. Lee says:

    Lee Harvey Oswald

  89. paul maleski says:

    Ask Edward Snowden–Who did 9/11?

  90. […] I’ve already laid out serious questions about Snowden’s work history and whether he’s told the truth about it. […]

  91. […] There seems to be confusion over not only his education background but his work background as well as his 4 months (May to September, 2004) in the Army reserve where he alleges he broke both of his legs in a training accident. Some report he stole the NSA information after he joined Booz Allen in March which seems wrong since he was hawking it prior to that time. Jon Rappaport asks some of the questions that occur to me. […]

  92. […] you can’t separate Snowden’s minor revelations from the question of who he is, if you can’t entertain the notion that covert ops and intelligence-agency games are reeking […]

  93. […] elements of Snowden’s questionable bio, which I’ve covered in previous articles (see [ref1], [ref2], [ref3], [ref4], [ref5], [ref6], [ref7], and [ref8]), suggests the NSA-Snowden saga is […]

  94. […] as other elements of Snowden’s questionable bio, which I’ve covered in previous articles (see [ref1], [ref2], [ref3], [ref4], [ref5], [ref6], [ref7], and [ref8]), suggests the NSA-Snowden saga is […]

  95. […] you can’t separate Snowden’s minor revelations from the question of who he is, if you can’t entertain the notion that covert ops and intelligence-agency games are reeking with […]

  96. […] as other elements of Snowden’s questionable bio, which I’ve covered in previous articles (see [ref1], [ref2], [ref3], [ref4], [ref5], [ref6], [ref7], and [ref8]), suggests the NSA-Snowden saga is […]

  97. Antiroyal says:

    Every other whistle blower has been ignored and kept out of the media spot light, Snowden and wiki leaks full media coverage = bullshit. Controlled opposition, The fact that Julian Assange follow the the government position on 9/11 show he’s nothing more than a shill same as snowden.

  98. […] NSA leaker: are there serious cracks in Ed Snowden‘s story? « Jon … […]

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