Elliot Roger, Santa Barbara killer: parallels and numbers

Elliot Rodger, Santa Barbara killer: parallels and numbers

by Jon Rappoport

May 25, 2014

www.nomorefakenews.com

These are preliminary notes.

For now, they’re based on media accounts of the killing spree on May 23, in Isla Vista, California—and of course, these media accounts of mass murders should never be accepted, on their face, as ironclad facts.

Rodger is reported to be the son of Peter Rodger, a unit director of the film, Hunger Games. According to press accounts, the father specifically directed a short film within that film—a propaganda piece extoling the “new society” in which ritual sacrifice of children in the Games is a way of never forgetting the treason of rebellion/war in the “old society,” the rebellion which must never happen again.

As a parallel to the film, the killing of children in Isla Vista on May 23 will forward two agendas which are claimed to be crucial to maintaining the cohesion of the new emerging society: wall-to-wall gun control and massive/invasive/toxic psychiatric care across every stratum of the population.

Such was also the agenda in the wake of Sandy Hook—where Suzanne Collins, the author of Hunger Games, resides.

Isla Vista, 2001: David Attias, a freshman at UC Santa Barbara, ran down and killed four people with his car, after which he got out and said, “I am the angel of death.”

Like Elliot Rodger, Attias is the son of a Hollywood director, Dan Attias (Ally McBeal, The Sopranos).

NBC: “Attias set off on the vehicular assault after being spurned by a woman.”

In his now-published Manifesto, Elliot Rodger goes on at great length about women rejecting him. He also mentions meeting with his psychiatrist, Charles Sophy (manifesto page 112), who gave him a prescription for Risperidone, an anti-psychotic drug. Rodger claims he researched the drug online and didn’t take it.

He suggests or implies that he has seen Dr. Sophy (“my psychiatrist”) a number of times. Were other drugs prescribed in the past? SSRI antidepressants (Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac)? These drugs are well-known for pushing people over the edge into suicide and homicide. (See numerous accounts at SSRI Stories).

Dr. Charles Sophy (twitter) is a psychiatrist in private practice in Beverly Hills. On his site, you can text him live, for instant therapy. He is also, as stated on his site, the Medical Director of the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services.


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Considering the fondness various secret societies have for rituals (e.g., ritual sacrifice of children, as in The Hunger Games), and also their fondness for numbers and codes, consider this number: 23.

David Attias’ 2001 vehicular slaughter in Santa Barbara occurred on February 23, 2001.

The official release date of the first Hunger Games film in the US was March 23, 2012.

Elliot Rodger’s rampage in Santa Barbara took place on May 23, 2014.

Just another coincidence.

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at www.nomorefakenews.com

32 comments on “Elliot Roger, Santa Barbara killer: parallels and numbers

  1. onegroovydude says:

    Guns do not kill people. Insane children raised on violent video games, with liberal parents who do not care what their children watch or do is the cause of this. Not guns. Where’s the call for the end of violent video games? The end of cutlery? The end of cars? Why blame the gun? Blame the gun when he stabbed the first 3 kids, hit 2 cyclists with a car, and was addicted to violent video games. Sure it’s the guns fault.

    Everyone with half a brain, and even the slightest amount of common sense knows this had nothing to do with guns. If anyone is a victim here, it is the gun. The gun did not want to be part of that. The gun was not invented for that. And when you put almost anything in the hands of a killer it can and will become a weapon. Anyone who blames guns are completely avoiding the nucleus of why this happened. Twisted liberal upbringing, psychotic behavior, prescription meds, and violent video games are to blame for this and nothing else.

    Jim Morrison said: “We must find a solution instead of a way.” Taking away guns does not solve the problem of insanity. It only disarms those who can protect themselves from the insane. The solution is to tackle the liberal mindset, and disarm it from the child’s brain. When you see these moms on tv with 8 year old boys that wear pink tutu’s to school, you know they’re liberals. You can see the way they look, dress, talk, act that they’re liberals.

    When an 8 year old boy tells his mom he’s a woman inside and he’s going to start dressing as a woman, and she does nothing about it, that’s the liberal disease. Putting these kids on ADHD meds at 2 and 3 years old is a liberal disease. Doctor’s that would suggest it are stricken by the liberal disease. Letting these kids play graphic violent video games when the parents know they’re sick is part of the liberal disease. Raising them to be young adults by 5 is part of the liberal disease.

    You cannot take something as advanced as human life, and raise it with a liberal mindset, and not expect to have outcomes like this. Stop blaming guns for the disease of liberalism.

    • country music says:

      Thank you for your wise words! They are so true!!

      And the liberal disease is nothing else than Frankfurt School Cultural Marxism: ‘We will corrupt the West until it stinks’. Willy Munzenberg.

      Liberals don’t even understand they are the ‘useful idiots’ that destroy there own culture.

    • EY says:

      SPOT ON!

    • Mark Cobeyduck says:

      “If anyone is a victim here, it is the gun.” That’s pretty damn insensitive. I know what you’re trying to get at but you might choose your words more carefully,

    • You think human life is advanced!
      What gave you that crazy idea…you been hangin with liberals haven’t you?

    • Truther says:

      I was raised conservatively and was blessed to be born of parents who moderately censored what I was exposed to (of course I would rebel, most kids do). I didn’t grow up on cable or internet. But when I was older and would babysit the neighborhood kids, I was shocked at what the parents allowed them to watch and do: the violent video games, the R-rated movies, complete online freedom (all you need to do is ask google anything you want and you get), and the junk food (oh my God that junk food, it was like parents thought a fruit-roll up and mac & cheese was a complete meal). I think you are right about guns, they don’t kill. The person kills. Alot of parents out there don’t think giving their kids all that freedom has any impact, but it really does. How can it not?

  2. News says:

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  4. Recynd77 says:

    Just as a note of interest, Dr. Charles Sophy is on the advisory panel of the Dr. Phil show. He is often featured live on the show as an expert on child and adolescent issues.

  5. MacLeod Cushing says:

    Elliot was in his 23rd year, age 22. Here’s a local SB story about the Attias/Rodger parallels, kind of interesting.

    http://www.independent.com/news/2014/may/24/isla-vista-shooting-echoes-david-attias/

  6. An Anonymous says:

    “Sophy”? The psychiatrist’s name is “Sophy”, as in “sophia”, or wisdom? The all-wise doctor told him to take his Risperidal, but he didn’t listen. And now this happened…see where this is going?

  7. theodorewesson says:

    Here’s two interesting tweets:

  8. aethir86 says:

    Hello,
    I just thought about how May 23, 2014 could be interpreted as

    5-5-5

    23 = 2+3 = 5
    May = 5
    ’14 = 1+4 = 5

  9. starviego says:

    In his manifesto Rodger ranted against a girl named Monette Moio, who he knew from school years before. Oddly, her brother was a bit player in the movie:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2639783/Father-childhood-pal-turned-model-virgin-killer-claimed-women-mean-cruel-heartless-creatures-says.html
    Monette’s brother, Ashton, is an actor who had a small role in the Hunger Games.

  10. JB says:

    BREAKING: MULTIPLE WITNESSES Say TWO MEN Were In the Elliot Rodger BMW During Shooting
    http://sgtreport.com/2014/05/breaking-multiple-witnesses-say-two-men-were-in-the-bmw-during-shooting/

  11. Michael says:

    Hi Jon, just wanted to say thanks for all you do. You are easily my most trusted “blogger” and imo few others are able to see as clearly as you (Heart+Head+God?;). Also I reposted this to my FB and realized few would read my intro… here it is, hope this is useful.

    Some believe (esotericists/occultists) the numbers 23 or 5 (2+3) to represent the emancipated human personality , i.e. intellectual autocracy. Further, the 5 or Pentagram is “good” when it is the expression of the personality whose will is united and bound to the fullness of Unity (or decad); and the pentagram is “evil” when it expresses the will of the personality separated from this Unity. In other words “Thy will be done” vs. “my will be done” (paraphrased from “anonymous” M.O.T.T.).
    And this from Louis Claude de Saint-Martin (1743-1803), “As long as numbers are united and bound up with the decad, there is not one that presents the image of corruption of deformity. It is only when one separates them that these characteristics manifest themselves. Amongst the numbers thus specified, some are ABSOLUTELY EVIL, such as the TWO AND FIVE. These are also the only ones which divide the number ten” (Des nombres, Nice, 1946, xxi).
    And this from Eliphas Levi (1810-1875) “The Pentagram, which in Gnostic schools is called the Blazing Star, is THE SIGN OF INTELLECTUAL OMNIPOTENCE AND AUTOCRACY. (Transcendental Magic. Its Doctrine and Ritual. p. 237)
    Sorry, not yelling, caps should be italicized. I’ve been trying to keep it positive on here but this is blatant “Black Magic” and in these cases I’m gonna go ahead and call it satanic, not the “outer circle”or “Laveyan” satanism or Theosophical Luciferianism, this imo is the real thing (pure evil or whatever You call it). – Sorry again to the three people that read all this. Maybe now go meditate on Love, Unity and Hope (the Decad!!!) or on all the wonderful attributes of the septad!!! (seven); color, tone, Chakras, glands of the endocrine system, levels of Heaven, levels of hell…etc…or the rainbow (seven colors) as rayed out from the unity of pure whiteness Above, descending, mixing and darkening into the blackness Below, then back Above again- Once more True Love and True Peace is always possible if the majority of us would start living and acting as if there WAS a Higher Power, whatever that is to YOU! (As long as He/She is Infinite and Love, watching our every move;) This is my short appeal to my friends (who havent yet done so) to try to find Love for the One Thing, i.e. the synthesis of Your inherent “Human genius” (five) and Your inherent Divinity (One, Ten, 19, 28… etc.).
    Pax et Bonum, Mikey
    Haha, this was supposed to be a brief intro. Take it how you will. Amen (so be it).

    -Most (or all) of this was paraphrased from M.O.T.T. by “anonymous”, first published in English in 1985 and which I highly recommend. Thanks again, Michael.

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  16. hERoIC says:

    I’ve read the following article the other day by a certain OllieGarkey (pen name making a play on words with Oligarchy).

    Combine the favoured by the occultists image of a pentagram inside a rose with the reading’s bad vibe and it gets suspicious.

    You know the old lying habit of putting too much meat around the bone to hide the truth? Here it seems the case.

    Such a singular event where all of the media moguls planets aligned to make a coherent narrative out of an inexplicable (that is because you’re not in that person’s head and who is to say that humans behave in a logic constructed way all, if not most, of the times anyway) inhuman gesture, with the ‘’before’’ (humanistic factors leading to) and ‘’after’’(laws and society adjusting to one individual) but not much of the ‘’during it’’ explanations, is asking for our scrupulous attention.

    And entire new world out of nowhere came to my attention in this piece out of Daily Kos writing. Surreal for someone like me spending a lot of time on the internet and just learning new expressions like ‘’manosphere’’, and ‘’incel’’. Some have been calling for the script like nature of the entire Elliot Roger story and that is the feeling you get when you read something like that describing a claim to be well defined internet community. Artificially constructed is what I sense when somebody is trying to sell me that a Men’s Right Movement=pickup artists=misogyny=lifting weights=rape jokes. I don’t know how many years in study of that wide pattern it takes but that writer reads like an expert on the topic. Maybe if I had enough time to waste on a deranged mind 137 pages manifesto I could become an authority on the matter too.

    Sarcasm aside, the thing is I’m not buying it, even if this oversimplification is truly seductive.

    Unfortunately, that is how our mind as been trained to work (and a bit inherently maybe) finding reasons and causes for everything and being expose to possible manipulation by others.

    ‘’They’’ hated our freedom and that is why the towers fell on 9/11 (before). Case close (during it). Let’s bring in the Patriot Act and other measures that will diminish that freedom (after).

    Now what does this one (false flag or simply the taking over of a public event for a specific agenda) might be about a lot of people ask:

    – Another episode in an attempt at gun control?

    – Portraying men that speak about themselves as men suspicious? (divide and conquer)

    – Surveillance, camera, security, etc… same old, same old.

    – Terrorize you (most of terrorism, a.k.a. the act of terrorizing, is done by those who promote the lively idea of terrorism) and reap the Stockholm syndrome fruits?

    – Psychology is an exact science, you are not in control of your mind and actions we, the experts, can rule over your free will with all our mental disease labels and chemical imbalance correcting pills. You negative thoughts are the product of you being victims of your biology, let us be the caretaker, Science (the magic word nobody would dare question its sometimes reckless applications) knows best! Read your DSM-5 bible my faithful!
    – Money, power, control… meaning all of the above.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/24/1301671/-Elliot-Roger-Gunman-in-California-Mass-Shooting-was-influenced-by-the-Men-s-Rights-Movement#

  17. Jean Bush says:

    I knew it was a hoax the minute the media started reporting on it. We can see a definite pattern now, like all the rest of them. Let’s get ready for the next one.

  18. Sherlock says:

    The number 5 is probably a reference to the fifth element. They like this kind of stuff.

    We have the Pentagon, a pyramid has 5 faces and 5 vertices. Stars have 5 ends and are used everywhere (flags, logos, etc.)

    A pentagram represents the 4 physical elements…

    Earth = Resources
    Air = Intellect
    Water = Emotions
    Fire = Action
    The fifth element is SPIRIT.

    So when you see an inverted pentagram, the fifth element (Spirit) appears at the bottom meaning that the physical or material world rules over the spirit.

    2012 = “5” and it was supposed to be the end of the world.
    If I remember correctly, there was a phoenix rising from its ashes during the 2012 Olympic Games ceremony. The logo of the movie “Hunger Games” looks like a phoenix or a golden falcon. In the movie, there is 12 districts. One for each house of the zodiac, I guess.

    Conchita Wurst representing Austria won the 59th (14=5) annual Eurovision Song Contest 2014 Grand Final at the **B&W** Hallerne Copenhagen, Denmark where the Bilderbergers met this year. She won with the song “Rise Like a Phoenix”. If you look at the lyrics, you can read “Retribution you were warned”. 12 days later, Elliot Rodgers said: “Tomorrow is the day of retribution” He had a **B&W**. Just a coincidence?

    Maybe they want to reach the fifth stage of consciousness without us. I can’t say, but I’m pretty sure we’ll see a lot more phoenix, “E” and “5” in the next months. We are ruled by a bunch of dark occultist psycho-technocrats.

    One thing is sure, I don’t want to be an organic computer!

  19. dmpeters60077 says:

    Indeed reality is stranger than fiction ???

  20. Jean Bush says:

    There are so many definite patterns to these hoaxes, any way we can start predicting them?

    • Michael rohling says:

      Jean,
      Babylonian/ Vedic/ Hermetic astrology, i.e. the sidereal system is your best bet in prediction (no easy task to learn!), but not enough in itself as so much has been lost. “That which is above is like to that which is below and that which is below is like to that which is above, to accomplish miracles of (the) one thing.” (Tabula Smaragdina) Just trying to use numerology alone would be almost impossible. Which system to use being the biggest obstacle (chaldean, pythagorean, kabbala, etc.). Although, there appears to be a synthesis within reach that incorporates many ancient and modern numerical systems, i.e. Tarot, this itself is based on the above (true or sidereal astrology). Now, it’s been said that each day is considered to resonate a different set of Trump cards (Arcana Major)- here are some simple equations- using 5-23-2014 we can come up with a series of Trumps. I’ll give you the first two. 1st Trump (root note)- we add all the numbers- 5+2+3+2+1+4 and get Arcana 17- “The Star”, the most hopeful and feminine (f. Trinity) of the cards. Next we place the 8th Trump (1+7) “Strength” to the right of “Hope”. “Strength” can indicate problems of a sexual nature. If you use the English or Golden Dawn tradition (I use the French tradition which is relatively light, pure and true IMO) you might see a lion about to devour a defenseless and naked women with her back turned. She is “hope”. Also of note is the 10th trump(5+2+3)- “Wheel of Fortune” which makes a chord with the first two cards. Some interpretations include: beginning or end of a cycle (hormonal), opportunity to seize, need for outside help, wheel of karma(successive reincarnations), law of nature and finally… Shooting a film! The number five is also in play as discussed above, needless to say hindsight is 20/20.

  21. Michael rohling says:

    Sorry, I need an editor; still learning about semicolons.

  22. V.E.G. says:

    Peter Rodger and his son are related to the signer of the Declaration of Independence, John Witherspoon.

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