Zika: Jon Levine of mic.com interviews me

Zika: Jon Levine of mic.com interviews me

by Jon Rappoport

February 4, 2016

(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, Power Outside The Matrix, click here.)

I now have a strategy when any member of the press who could be considered “mainstream” or “almost mainstream” interviews me. I’m interviewing them, too, at the same time.

Then, when they publish something, people can see the difference between their account and mine. I like it.

I’m noting what they say to me and how they’re approaching me and the issue at hand—and I’m writing about it afterwards.

So I get an email from Jon Levine at mic.com (Jon Levine’s mic.com profile here) (mic.com’s twitter feed is here). He wants to talk to me about possible alternative explanations re Zika, or some such, he leaves a number, and I call him.

He expresses some interest in one of my Zika articles he read at Activist Post, and asks me a question. Wait, I say, is this on the record? (I thought we were just chatting or this was for background only.) Yes, he says, now, it’s on the record. Are you interviewing me? I ask. Yes, he says. Not my favorite way to begin an interview.

I figure, what the hell, so I give him an earful. I cite the latest figures out of Brazil, the center of the Zika-microcephaly “crisis.” 404 confirmed cases of microcephaly (or possibly some other kind of non-microcephaly nervous-system impairment), and of those 404 cases, only 17 “with a relationship to the Zika virus,” whatever the hell that means. In other words, zero science proving there is either a microcephaly epidemic or that Zika has anything to do with it. I hammer on this for a while with him. I want him to get the point.

He asks me why I think all this press coverage of the “outbreak” is happening, or maybe he asks me what other explanation there could be for the cases of microcephaly, or something like this—can’t remember—I didn’t take notes—and I say I’m not going there. I don’t want his readers to focus on some alternative scenario, I want them to focus on the science, of which there is none.

I keep pounding on the latest figures out of Brazil, I do mention corporations that need to be protected down there as they spew toxic pesticides all over the landscape—and, for example, atrazine has been linked to microcephaly.

I hit the World Health Organization for fomenting all this hysteria based on no science, but instead relying on “suspicion” and fear of “not acting soon enough,” which was, they say, a problem in the Ebola “outbreak.” He says something like, well, doesn’t “over-caution” (my term) make sense? And I fling around a few expletives and say no, it makes no sense at all, because there is no indication of an epidemic or the involvement of Zika—and the burden of proof is on the people who launched the announcement of the “epidemic” in the first place.

I tell him I’ve been around the block on these so-called epidemics before, and he asks for an example (of a phony epidemic), and I tell him: Swine Flu.

I then recount the whole Sharyl Attkisson-CBS story about how she discovered, at the height of the Swine Flu hysteria, that the CDC had stopped counting cases in America, and that was because the overwhelming numbers of blood samples from diagnosed Swine Flu patients and the most likely Swine flu cases were coming back from the labs with no sign of Swine Flu or any flu—and that story, by Sharyl, was put up on the CBS News website, and her editor told her it was the most original story on Swine Flu he’d seen—but when they tried to get the story on the network evening news, it was suddenly shot down, and that was that. And then I added my own piece: a few weeks later, the CDC, doubling and tripling down, estimated there were 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in America (which even by CDC standards for telling lies wall to wall had to rank up there among their greatest bullshit hits).

I didn’t get much of a reaction from Jon Levine of mic.com. All through the interview, he suppressed, or never had, a surprised reaction to any of my comments. I suppose this is a fine example of journalistic objectivity.

I told him there was no way he could take the actual facts about Zika-microcephaly and write them straight out for his news outlet and expose the entire scam and get the story published. It wouldn’t happen. If it did, his reputation would take a serious hit. I think I mentioned that I knew that and that he knew that, too.

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That was pretty much that. So let’s see what happens. Let’s see if he publishes a Zika piece at mic.com. If he does, let’s see if he mentions the interview, and how, and in what context. Let’s see what he does with it. Let’s see if he or anyone else at mic.com goes to the CDC or WHO for a comment or, God forbid, actually digs into this insane scandal. Let’s see. Keep your eyes open. If a piece does appear, let me know. My interview with Jon Levine took place on Thurs. Feb. 4.

If I were in Vegas and could lay down money on the outcome, I think you know which way I’d go. But that’s just me.

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.

6 comments on “Zika: Jon Levine of mic.com interviews me

  1. Michael Howley says:

    I just listened to your interview on the Richie Allen Show. Absolutely brilliant… as usual. Keep up the good work.
    Love your Matrix series.


  2. farsight3 says:

    The Intelligent Universe (IU) gives us a hint about this scam – that can be found in the figure of the latest cases: “404” means that the data couldn’t be found.

    Same with the real reason for the head malformation of those unfortunate babys…


  3. Dr. Ogle says:

    Just read John Levine’s ‘hit piece’ at mic.com. He’s selling the con.

    • Theodore says:

      Zika Virus Conspiracies: Inside the “Crazy” and Occasionally “Intriguing” Theories


      “Is the burden of proof on me? Fuck no,” Jon Rappoport, the owner, chief writer and sole employee of NoMoreFakeNews.com told Mic. Rappoport said that it was the responsibility of Zika Cassandra’s to make their case, adding that he was skeptical about whether Zika was a real threat. Citing a similar brouhaha over swine flu and other recent global health scares, Rappoport said he was not convinced that a credible link between Zika and microcephaly had been established.

      “Brazil is the biggest user of pesticides in the world. We’re talking about Atrazine, we’re talking about Roundup,” he said. “Brazil is flooded with toxic pesticides and big corporate farming. Who needs to be protected here if there are more Microcephaly cases that people expect?”

  4. Rico Debiase says:

    All ad hominems, straw mans, demonizations. A lazy composite piece in which all “conspiracy theories” are equal in that they’re evil simply because they challenge the official account. That makes John Levine a “gatekeeper”. You’d have been a millionaire tonight, Jon.

  5. Jon, this isn’t a ploy to push your intellectual readers into regularly visiting mic.com?


    If you do make the Huffington Post, it would indeed trumpet a new direction for free thought. Here’s hoping….:)

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