Hillary-Trump debates: resurrection of IQ

Hillary-Trump debates: resurrection of IQ

by Jon Rappoport

September 21, 2016

(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)

We are approaching the 2016 Presidential debates. Hillary and Trump.

So I want to remind you of another time, another debate format, another capacity of the public mind. Way back when.

Consider the 1858 Abraham Lincoln-Stephen Douglas face-off—when apparently citizens still had a semblance of intelligence. Both men were running for a US Senate seat in Illinois. In those days, state legislatures chose US Senators.

But the issue in the debates was slavery, so the interest was intense and it was national. Here was the agreed-upon format—get this: seven debates in seven Illinois towns over the course of three weeks; in each debate, the opening candidate would speak for 60 minutes, his opponent would speak for 90 minutes, and then the first candidate would return for 30 minutes.

The debates drew large crowds. Chicago newspapers had stenographers in each town. The stenos took down every word, and newspapers across the nation printed, in full, the texts.

Those were debates. No moderator. The men talked. And talked.

They weren’t asked questions.

They didn’t interrupt each other with insults and wise cracks.

They didn’t shift from issue to issue.

And when they were done in each town, denizens of the media weren’t around to weigh in on how “Presidential” they sounded and looked.

Current TV debates preclude the possibility of something dangerous happening. For example, in a real contest, suppose the single issue was Syria and a candidate stepped up to the podium and said:

“During my remarks in the next ninety minutes, with no interruptions—yes, we’re going back to a much older format—I’ll be the making the case that the current US administration has essentially created ISIS, in part for the purpose of overthrowing the present government of Syria. Consider this fact alongside our declared ‘war’ against ISIS. This is more than an outrageous contradiction. It’s an intentional deception, and a crime of the highest order, considering what ISIS has been carrying out in terms of the destruction of human life. Now, I’m not just saying these things. I have evidence in the form of documents, which I’ll be explaining in detail. Some of these documents and reports are already public. Others are not. I also have statements, on the record, from US military officers and Pentagon executives. So bear with me, stay with me, I’m going to take this one step at a time…”

There are many ways to keep this sort of thing from happening. The easiest way: never let a true debate occur.

And just in case you think the American public is so addled they wouldn’t be able to follow such a presentation, I have a secret for you. At first, it would be a problem, yes. But if more and more true debates took place, a change would bleed in. People would begin to wake up. They’d find themselves, bit by bit, intensely interested in the proceedings.

After all, part of the reason the public is brainwashed springs directly from the fact that so few politicians explore any issue in depth. Reverse that trend and the mind begins to reassemble itself.

How about something like this? Crossing party lines, Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul debated, seven times, as Lincoln and Douglas had, the following: “What is socialism, and is it good for America?”

If either candidate had been unable to do more than spout vapid generalities and programmatic fumes during his seven hours, it would surely have become obvious.

How about Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, in the same format, debating the question: “Describe in detail the best immigration policy for America.” If their seven events turn into a Niagara of opposing non-sequiturs and self-inflating jive, so be it. It’ll be on parade for all to see.

People wonder whether Hillary can get from her van to the podium without a golf cart and three assistants. Forget about it. This would be seven debates in three weeks, during which she would speak for a total of 630 minutes.

That would be real.

She and Trump would have to lay out their positions in full.

The public would have to pay attention. And if they couldn’t or wouldn’t, so be it. Maybe next time they would.

Pandering to the lowest common denominator of intelligence is a grotesque side-show that has taken center stage.

The point is to aim high and force things.

Bring back meaningful debate.

Get used to the long form again.

Push this nation up, not down.

The Matrix Revealed

I would certainly like to see Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, and Bill O’Reilly compelled to analyze each of seven full debates. That alone would be worth the price of admission.

Even more thrilling, let Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Party candidate for President, do the full seven debates against, well, anyone. The Libertarians are supposed to be true intellectuals. Well, let’s see IQ on parade, as their leading nitwit engages on an issue of vital interest. Then cut up his presentation and make a sit-com out of it.

Let’s have a few dozen intrepid college professors tell their classes: “We’re going to take apart all seven, long-form, Lincoln-Douglas-type debates between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Piece by piece, step by step. I don’t want to hear any nonsense about ‘being triggered’ or ‘needing safe spaces’. If you can’t handle it, you get an F for the course. If you know nothing about traditional logical fallacies, you’d better bone up quickly, because I have a feeling we’re going to be exploring those fallacies. And don’t bother feeding me vapid generalities and slogans when you write your papers. You’re on the hook. I expect you to be alert and smart. If that’s beyond your capacity, you shouldn’t be here. Go back to high school or middle school or wherever it was you checked out of your education. Play time is over. Whining is over. This is college…”

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free emails at NoMoreFakeNews.com or OutsideTheRealityMachine.

16 comments on “Hillary-Trump debates: resurrection of IQ

  1. mrcamillon says:

    I would like to hear someone talk. No prompter no writers. I would like for all of the parties to be banned. By party rules election are stolen. A thief should not be allowed to run for office. If what you do or do not do causes some one to be killed. You should be in prison.

  2. bod says:

    google utube: kindergarten cop and the 45th australian parliament, it puts visually, what Jon is saying above, its a good laughter boost, and shows the infantile behaviour and ad hominum(sp?) attacks that pass for politics these days.

  3. Sabell says:

    This collaged quote is now on my wall:

    “Pandering to the lowest common denominator of intelligence is a grotesque side-show that has taken center stage. The point is to aim high and force things. Bring back meaning.. Get used to long form.. Push this nation up, not down.. Don’t bother feeding me vapid generalities and slogans… I expect you to be alert and smart. If that’s beyond your capacity… Go back to high school or middle school or wherever it was you checked out of your education. Play time is over. Whining is over. This is college…”

    Yes! No more whining, only a nice glass of wining savoured over a beautiful meal made with passion, clarity, and creativity nourished over time in thoughtful companionship. Mmm…

    That said, I’m exhausted with the lowest ‘un’common (well, I suppose it is more common now due to the systems of schooling in place) denominator and the dumbed down speech of people in general. It seems intentionally designed to strip the cells of minds into a vaga mush of muddled stupor spewing poorly seasoned colloquialisms, unsalted clichés, and bland quotes of ‘non’sense for self-important egopats[ies]. Speak to people, esp. children, with intelligence and they begin to learn new words, new ways of thinking, and their gears in their minds begin to turn upon healthy, creative cogs (connecting links, firing synapses, whatsoever). They use their minds to interact with new ways of thinking, most often going far beyond a ‘system’ into imagination, bringing even more creative practical and logical application into being.

    It was super-refreshing to read reference here in angst to the pandering of the lowest denominator of Intelligents/intelligence. God! I hate it when people fall into that hole – lowering the self for what is grossly misunderstood to be ‘reaching’ down ‘in’ to ‘lift’ another/for the sake of an other (for-sake-ing themselves) saviour mentality which automaton-atically demeans all. It’s a fallacy and traps people to wallow in the muck and mire of others who don’t think, spinning in whirls of verbiage and fitful cocktails of insults until they realize they’re just with people who have relinquished responsibility and accountability of self to the stagnant muckhole, dosing and dole/dulling out drivel. Throw a rope, a cake of soap, but don’t get in the muck thinking you’re saving people. Keep yourself clean while giving others the tools to lift themselves. The soapbox crate is a marvelous thing as long as it’s not used as a boat full of clichés bouncing along atop and eventually amid the muck and the mire of the no think. Throw the soap of ‘creativity’ and ‘think’ for people to use it and clean up. Stand on the box and throw the soap to those who will catch it and use it (a tool) to clean themselves up and lift ‘themselves’ up. And stand there until someone gets it. Yes, ‘force’ the speaker to speak for longer than a few tweeting autofellatial hashed tagged acro-memes until some, and over the long haul most, begin to look up from their ‘dumb’ things and get it. Stop it with the seizure news and grande mal speech, and get back into a nice long relaxing 90 minute bath of soothing truth. And don’t forget the epsom salt to release the backup of lies from the aching, hurting muscles that have been shocked and deceived for far too long.

  4. Tres Bien says:

    We live in a world of could-have-been’s but never-will-be’s.

    We had between five and ten thousand years worth of amazing, cheap energy that we squandered on enriching the most evil among us and on destroying the biosphere.

    I’m voting for “hasten the collapse and mitigate its severity” [http://realitysandwich.com/8855/money_and_crisis_civilization/].

  5. Maybe so, Jon.

    It maybe a step in the right direction, but let us never that, in his own way, Abraham Lincoln was a corrupt individual that bowed to corporate interests of the time. Yes, there was less up for grabs then, but that bloody “civil war” (sic) put an end to that.

    Which side did Lincoln back? I forget….

    As for the Libertarian party, is that a joke? Where’s their “liberty”?


  6. From Québec says:

    Donald Trump said Monday that he doesn’t want anybody moderating a debate with Hillary Clinton.

    “I think we should have a debate with no moderator, just Hillary and I sitting there talking,” the GOP presidential candidate said while calling into CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”

    • Lance C Wildwood says:

      As a fellow Canuck…I saw/read Trumps statement on this and just had to giggle…yeah right…Hillary the busted debating for more then a sound byte? Meh…not gonna happen. Well, From Quebec…all we can do is break out the popcorn and favourite bevvy and watch from afar. It’s been fascinating thus far! Cheers from BC

      • From Québec says:

        Canadians are very interested in the US election. Since they are our neighbors, whatever will happen in their country, will happen to our country.

        How easy will it be, if Trump is not elected President, for the Islamists to come into our country through the U.S. northern borders.

        We already have enough Islamists here, thanks to our stupid Justin Trudeau Prime Minister.

        Imagine, we only have 38 million people in our country who is the second largest country in the world. Soon we will be the minority here.

        Trump must be elected for us to survive. In fact, he must be elected for the whole word to survive.

        Trump versus the NWO .

  7. Stephen says:

    Everybody is thinking the same come presidential elections. Here we have 2 crooks. Which one is the lesser evil. 2017,2021,2025…..Repeat.

  8. jeff says:

    Trump could just announce it and show up. Do his 60 minutes, explain that shillary didn’t show, and follow up with his 30 minutes, then tell the audience where the next debate is and keep doing it til she does show up or doesn’t.

  9. aleta says:

    I am looking forward to this debate .. may the best person go forward ..

  10. Theodore says:

    “It used to be, cars were made in Flint and you couldn’t drink the water in Mexico. Now the cars are made in Mexico and you can’t drink the water in Flint.” — Donald J Trump

  11. Theodore says:

    Maybe that Epipen is actually a laser pointer…

    Hillary’s handler — Todd Madison — is using a laser pointer to help Hillary not freeze when she walks. Actual footage from the DNC stage showing him using the laser pointer while standing next to Hillary, pointing the way for her. Follow the dot…

    Go to the 4m39s mark… reporting by Bill Still…

    Hat tip: http://rense.com

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