Virus fakery: my conversation with a White House policy analyst

Virus fakery: my conversation with a White House policy analyst

by Jon Rappoport

February 26, 2018

There are a number of cases in which a virus is said to be the cause of a disease—but the evidence doesn’t stand up.

I first realized this in 1987. I was writing my book, AIDS INC., Scandal of the Century.

Robert Gallo, who claimed he had found the cause of AIDS, hadn’t done proper work. From everything I read, he claimed to have discovered HIV in a low percentage of AIDS patients he had studied.

He should have been able to isolate HIV in virtually every patient.

Then there was the fact that the most popular tests for HIV, the Elisa and Western Blot, were fatally flawed. They could register positive for a whole host of reasons that had nothing to do with HIV.

And no one had found sufficient quantities of HIV in humans to justify claiming it caused any kind of illness.

My own research into the so-called high-risk groups revealed that the “AIDS” immune suppression in those groups could be explained by factors other than a virus.

(Note: All my research at that time assumed HIV existed. Since then, several researchers, including the Perth Group, have made compelling arguments that the existence of HIV was never demonstrated.)

As I was winding up the final draft of AIDS INC., I spoke, off the record, with a well-known and well-respected mainstream virologist at a large US university. I expressed my conclusions about HIV.

He spoke, first, about the difficulties in making an absolute decision about a virus as the cause of a disease.

I brought the conversation back to HIV.

He paused. Then he repeated that he couldn’t go on the record. I asked him why.

He said HIV was a subject fraught with problems. Politics were involved.

He said he and his colleagues were taking a pass on getting into a dispute about the virus. They were aware that the science was shaky. They just didn’t want to go near it. They might enter into other arguments about other kinds of research, but as far as they were concerned, HIV was off-limits.

His obvious implication was: careers were on the line.

Attacking HIV as the cause of AIDS could result in blacklisting.

He stopped short of saying HIV wasn’t the cause of AIDS, but it was clear he had seen enough to know there were major holes in HIV science.

This was a man who had no interest in unconventional points of view. He was an orthodox researcher from A to Z. He wasn’t a rebel of any kind. And yet he readily admitted to me that the whole AIDS research establishment was proceeding on a lack of proof.

Exposing this fact would go far beyond the usual definition of a scandal. The result would be a volcanic eruption, if, say, a dozen respected virologists told the truth.

After we finished our conversation, I understood something about consensus reality. It contains elements about which people can argue in public—but then there are other elements which are completely out of bounds, which can never be refuted in a mainstream setting.

Why? Because if certain lies are exposed, they initiate a contagion of doubt and insight that spreads to the whole complex inter-structure of what people take to be reality.

Great curtains are torn away. Pillars are cracked, and fall. Images which are taken to be absolute and unchanging distort, dissolve, and blow away in the wind.

A week after AIDS INC. was shipped to bookstores, in 1988, my friend and colleague, hypnotherapist Jack True, told me a copy of the book was on its way to Russia in a diplomatic pouch.

I asked him how he knew. He shrugged and said he had a few connections.

Of course, I’ve never heard anything back about the Russian response to the book, but I find it interesting that, in America, my publisher and I never made any headway in connecting with government officials.

There was one exception. In 1987, I had a conversation with James Warner, a White House policy analyst. The interview was published in the LA Weekly.

Warner had serious doubts about the HIV theory of AIDS, and would arrange a White House conference on the issue. Pro and anti HIV scientists would be permitted to speak at length.

At the last minute, the conference was cancelled.

Here are a few brief excerpts from my conversation with Warner. As a White House analyst, his comments are explosive:

Warner: The government really hasn’t fulfilled its role in providing good information [on AIDS]. We just may not know enough. With AIDS, we’re dealing with a syndrome, not a disease. We may see a patient who has a genetic defect that’s causing his immune deficiency [instead of HIV being the causative agent]. I’m not satisfied we know all we think we do, by any means.

Rappoport: Robert Gallo, Max Essex, people like that, were the field commanders in the NIH [National Institutes of Health] war on cancer in the 70’s. They lost that war. So why are they in charge of AIDS research now? It seems odd that we don’t have other people running the show.

Warner: If ever I’ve been tempted to believe in socialism, science has disabused me of that. These guys [at NIH] assume that it’s their show. They just assume it.

Rappoport: Peter Duesberg, a distinguished molecular biologist at Berkeley, has said that HIV does not cause AIDS. Have you asked people at NIH what they think, specifically, of his arguments?

Warner: Yes. I’ve been told that Peter Duesberg’s refutation of HIV has been discounted by the scientific community. I was given no explanation as to why. I was very offended. No evidence was presented to me. Just that Duesberg had been ‘discounted.’ That’s absurd. It’s not a scientific response to dismiss Duesberg as a crank.

Rappoport: The definition of AIDS in Africa is now becoming synonymous with starvation. They’re saying the three major symptoms are chronic diarrhea, fever, and wasting-away. Weight-loss. It certainly makes a perfect smokescreen for the
aspect of hunger which is political [and intentionally maintained] – just call it AIDS.

Warner: I had not considered that. There is a program to make Africa self-sufficient by the year 2000. This could certainly hinder that activity. You know, I was a prisoner of war in Vietnam. I experienced weight-loss of eighty pounds. And when I came home, I was suffering from a form of dysentery that you could call opportunistic. A number of us were. We didn’t have AIDS.

—end of interview excerpt—

In this current political atmosphere, a White House analyst wouldn’t dare go on the record with comments like these.

Rigid consensus must be maintained, at any cost.

Truth is beside the point.

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Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.

19 comments on “Virus fakery: my conversation with a White House policy analyst

  1. Eliza Ayres says:

    Reblogged this on Blue Dragon Journal and commented:
    AIDs, HIV, viruses…scientific fakery combined with politics?

    • Peter Meissnitzer (Gladiatoro) says:

      My last girlfriend asked me how did AIDS start I told her , deep in the Kongo jungle local tribes men had sex with monkeys then they ate them , she was like WOW , then I said a gay steward flew over and had sex with the local tribes men she is like OH , then the gay steward flew around the world had sex with a lot of other gay men and that’s how it spread , she was like MY GOD .

      Then I told her in reality HIV is just a harmless exosome produced by the human body she was like OH OK , I said see if you tell a lie over and over people will believe it and the pharmaceutical companies make billions , this is the kind of world we live in . Then she said thanks for clearing that up , I said you are welcome .

      • Eliza Ayres says:

        Most viruses are developed in labs, sometimes blended with viruses found in isolated environments to increase virulency. AIDS, or Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome is probably actually the result of several infections resulting from exposure to environmental poisons. HIV or Human Immunodeficency Virus is rumored to be the cause of AIDS but that premise has not been proven by scientists.

  2. JJ says:

    Yes indeed. The big hidden secret in the medical industry complex – virus hunting represent the most lucrative profit stream in the industry right now. Why? As you have repeatedly written about, well, because the public and medical provider sector has completely bought into the ‘all vaccines are good’ paradigm (vaccines save lives and have contributed to the dramatic reduction of history’s worst diseases, AND will contribute in the future to preventin mass pandemics), laws are in place where industry can’t be sued, money flows are now in place (thanks to legal lobbying and filling of campaign coffers) where public sector is financing mass rollouts. You have to say this has been one of the most brilliant marketing schemes of all time….. Gotta hand it to em’……………… Ingenious.

    • Peter Meissnitzer (Gladiatoro) says:

      Endless lies spewed from pharmaceutical companies , I call it criminal activity . And we are supposed to trust these people with our health , I think NOT. There has NEVER been a safe vaccine , there will NEVER be a safe vaccine and ALL vaccines are DANGEROUS TOXIC FILTH , FACT.

    • Sly says:

      Yep. I saw it all unfold.

  3. joshsdad says:

    The most important statement for me was: “if certain lies are exposed, they initiate a contagion of doubt and insight that spreads to the whole complex inter-structure of what people take to be reality.” There is mass deception going on. I’ve learned that much of what governments and media say is simply untrue.

  4. brusplace says:

    Man, Jon, this is mind blowing. The starvation info fills a huge gap.

  5. paschnn1 says:

    Therein lies the conundrum. One that, to a lucid/moral person, shows the pure BULLSHIT of this being an honorable nation radiating DEEP concern for mankind. Apply it to whatever you like, same lies and treachery. Yet, because of the flawed status in humankind, (“authoritarian” mentality), it not only continues but expands.

    Kosher bankers’ world wars = “the good wars”

    Befouled healthcare/pharmaceuticals = “nothing to see here, move along”

    False-flag attacks = “Let us not fall victim to crazy conspiracies….”

    Global warming = five and dime “science”.

    And on and on and on….

    regardless of the growth in the number of people who SEE things for what they are, if the authority of jurisdiction is corrupted, NOTHING will change. Perfect example; The snake Clinton, guilty as sin, yet, no prison, etc.

    “Pizzagate” – guess those little victims are just going to have to “live with it” – We do, right?

  6. brusplace says:

    These hoaxes might be ingenious, but are evil to the core.

  7. Freespirit says:

    Our Bodies over time become “inhabited”.in effect, by every naturural,( as opposed to manufactured, DNA altered,), Virus and Bacteria native to our persona/local living environment.

    We only become “infected” or made “sick” when our IMMUNE system becomes compromised by STRESS of one kind or another, such as, but not limited to, poor nutrition

    The solution is to RELIEVE the stress

    The only exception to that solution ,COULD be an “infection” caused by DNA altered or Manufactured pathogens

    For those “diseases”, other interventions MAY be necessary

  8. Lee says:

    Well done Jon – looks like the Trump Administration is prepared to look at the other side of the story.

  9. From Quebec says:

    The MSM must be destroyed. They are the ones who are working hand in hand with all the corrupted governments and big corporations to miss inform the gullible public.

    Let us destroy the MSM. and replace it with honest reporting media. It is the only way to stop this insanity.

  10. James says:

    This is an eye opening article, it should be read and shared far and wide. And it backs up some reading I had done in regard to an organization studying the relationship of Aids in regard to starvation in Africa. Turns out that this particular study determined that the people in the specific area of Africa where the study was conducted, were not starving because they didn’t have money to purchase food. What was happening was that they were buying American junk food like soda and chips and cookies etc at little convenience store by their mud huts. They showed pictures of the inside of the mud huts showing Oreos, Mountain Dew sodas, Doritos, chips, candy bars as the only food available for nourishment in the home. The study concluded that what caused Aids symptoms in the bodies of the families studied was starvation due to ONLY eating junk food. I also remember seeing pictures of the arms and legs of all the study participants, they all had lesions on them due to starvation as their bodies were unable to sufficiently heal cuts, scrapes, bug bites etc. It scared the heck out of me. I truly haven’t eaten any junk food since, and I did like Mountain Dew in particular. I’m sorry I dont remenber the name of the study, but I’m sure with some searching it can be found. Lastly the researches set about educating all the families about the perils of junk food, and as their diets returned to their traditional food sources they healed completely. I agree completely that Aids is a set of symptoms, that are wasting the body away. Once the symptoms are reversed, healing takes place.

  11. John Barlicorn says:

    This subject is confusing to me. I know that in the 80s and 90s scientists knew very little of HIV and AIDS, but what is the situation today? We need new studies..

  12. petergrafstrm says:

    Jon Rapoport
    Edward Hooper seems to have a case regarding the origin of AIDS.
    The picture Jon Rapoport paints is similar to some other writers I’ve seen who claim it is the cumulative result of many effects which weaken the immunoresistance. I am not refuting that and realize that Jon and many others unlike myself have given the subject much more attention. But many of the later western well-fed targets dont fit that picture at all. So why is Hoopers work marginalized? Because the US authorities who funded the experiments in the late fifties have to wait out the deaths to escape economical suits by the patients?
    The official story quoted by some commenter about monkeys is different yet related to Hooper’s credible summary.
    Hooper’s theory is that it was the unintended consequence of vaccine research. But later outbreaks look like it might be deliberate use of this chance discovery against specific targets.
    Since there are also rumours circulating about bioweapons labs there is need for more clarity. Could it be the case that there is a later cover-up phase designed to mimic the symptoms of virus-caused aids to hide the original phase?

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